Sympathy for Red Bull's current engine plight seems in short supply in the Formula One paddock, with rivals at Sauber and Williams saying the team should just take what it can get, and get on with it.
"I think they have to live with what they get now," was the opinion of Sauber F1 team principal Monisha Kaltenborn. "We've done that for so many years, so why can't they now?
"We have had a long history with them because we got them into the sport and had 10 years cooperation," she added, talking with Sky Sports this week.
"It used to be better earlier when we were partners and even when Red Bull initially became a known team. But if you look at the last few years, they have really been getting away with so much which is not in agreement with the others.
"They have changed a lot, maybe success has made them change that much, but I would say communication is not that high."
Kaltenborn's view was endorsed by another contributor to the #AskCrofty show, Williams' chief technical officer Pat Symonds.
"I pretty much agree," he said. "I have a lot of respect for them as a team, they've had some great results, they've raced hard and they've raced well.
"They've fallen on some hard times, but I hope they get out of it because I want to beat them. It is a difficult situation for them and maybe they haven't handled it was well as they might have done and I'm sure that is what is antagonising some fans."
Symonds suggested that some wisdom from his father might be appropriate for Red Bull in the current situation: "'When you lose say nothing and when you win say even less' - and maybe that is a motto we should all abide by."
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